I am just now watching Rick interviewing Tom Campbell on Batgap back in November 2014. It’s really fascinating if you can find time to watch or listen (podcast) it runs about 2hrs 20mins. As a brilliant physicist he talks in a way that non scientific people can understand. He says the answer to everything is . . . LOVE! if you are prepared to hang in there while he converses with Rick.
Enjoy, you can’t not!